Trump fraud trial live updates: Trump arrives at courthouse


(NEW YORK) — Former President Donald Trump is on trial in New York in a $250 million lawsuit that could alter the personal fortune and real estate empire that helped propel Trump to the White House.

Trump, his sons Eric and Don Jr., and Trump Organization executives are accused by New York Attorney General Letitia James of engaging in a decade-long scheme in which they used “numerous acts of fraud and misrepresentation” to inflate Trump’s net worth in order get more favorable loan terms. The trial comes after the judge in the case ruled in a partial summary judgment that Trump had submitted “fraudulent valuations” for his assets, leaving the trial to determine additional actions and what penalty, if any, the defendants should receive.

The former president has denied all wrongdoing and his attorneys have argued that Trump’s alleged inflated valuations were a product of his business skill.

Here’s how the news is developing. All times Eastern:

Nov 06, 9:21 AM EST
Trump arrives at courthouse

Donald Trump’s motorcade has arrived at the New York State Supreme Courthouse in lower Manhattan.

Court is scheduled to get underway at 10 a.m. ET, with Trump scheduled as the day’s only witness.

Nov 06, 8:49 AM EST
Trump prepped for testimony with attorneys, say sources

Donald Trump, in New York, had a prep session with his lawyers Sunday ahead his testimony, sources tell ABC News.

Trump’s mood during the session fluctuated between fits of anger regarding the case and being “in a good head space,” according to sources.

The former president “can be a good witness if he stays focused,” one source said.

Nov 06, 8:23 AM EST
Trump due in court to testify this morning

Former President Trump is due in court to begin his testimony in his $250 million civil fraud trial at 10 a.m. ET.

Hundreds of members of the news media are huddled outside the New York State Supreme Courthouse ahead of Trump’s arrival, with some having waited overnight.

Nov 03, 3:19 PM EDT
Judge extends limited gag order to cover lawyers

After multiple in-court disputes about communications between him and his law clerk, Judge Arthur Engoron modified his limited gag order to cover attorneys in former President Donald Trump’s civil fraud trial.

“Defendants may reference my staff as is appropriate to ask about scheduling issues or the management of the trial, which is an integral part of their jobs. What they may not do is to make any further statements about internal and confidential communications (be it conversations, note passing, or anything similar) between me and my staff,” Engoron wrote in his supplemental limited gag order on Friday.

Engoron wrote that defense lawyers Chris Kise, Alina Habba, and Clifford Robert made “repeated, inappropriate remarks about my Principal Law Clerk, falsely accusing her of bias against them and of improperly influencing the ongoing bench trial.”

The attorneys have raised multiple arguments during the trial that Engoron and his clerk passing notes between each other suggests impropriety and is distracting. Going forward, if the lawyers want to object to communications with his clerk, Engoron advised that they refer to the order as a “blanket statement.”

“This gag order is as narrowly tailored as possible to accomplish its purpose, which is to protect the safety of my staff and promote the orderly progression of this trial,” Engoron said.

To justify the safety threat, Engoron added that his chambers has received “hundreds of harassing and threatening phone calls, voicemails, emails, letters, and packages” since the start of the trial,

The judge threatened “serious sanctions” for violations of the extended order.

Nov 03, 12:30 PM EDT
Eric Trump, leaving court, criticizes case against his family

Standing in the courthouse hallway where his father earlier railed against his civil trial, Eric Trump echoed his father’s attacks on the New York attorney general and the case levied against his family, following the adjournment of court for the day.

“We have an unbelievable company. We have some of the best assets anywhere in the world. We’ve never had a default. We’ve never missed a payment,” Eric Trump said of the Trump Organization.

Like his father, he described the case as politically motivated and decried the involvement of his family.

“They’ve dragged Don and I and Ivanka into it as collateral damage,” he said.

Later, addressing reporters on the courthouse steps, he said that the state’s efforts should be focused elsewhere.

“Let’s get the murderers off the street. Let’s take care of the crime. Let’s rebuild our infrastructure. Everywhere you drive in New York, you hit a pothole and your car gets destroyed,” he said.

Nov 03, 12:21 PM EDT
Court adjourned for the day, with Trump on deck for Monday

Judge Engoron adjourned court until Monday, when the state plans to call former President Trump to the stand.

“We will reconvene on Monday at 10 a.m., and the first witness will be…?” Engoron asked state attorney Andrew Amer.

“The only witness will be Donald J. Trump,” Amer said.

Nov 03, 11:37 AM EDT
Eric Trump pressed on Mar-a-Lago valuation

Eric Trump has stepped down from the witness stand after facing an hour of questions from state attorney Andrew Amer.

Amer concluded his questioning by directly asking Eric Trump about the $2 million severance agreement between the Trump Organization and its former CFO, Allen Weisselberg.

“Did you participate in the business agreement to enter into this business decision with Mr. Weisselberg?” Amer asked.

“Yes,” Eric Trump said.

“Did your father direct you to enter into this agreement with Mr. Weisselberg?” Amer asked.

“No, he did not,” Eric Trump replied. He reiterated, “I did this agreement with Mr. Weisselberg.”

Pressed on the value of Trump’s Mar-A-Lago property, Eric Trump denied knowing that the club was valued for tax purposes as a commercial property used as a social club.

“It is very clear that Mar-a-Lago is not a club, it is a private residence. I don’t see anything wrong with that. 100 percent,” Eric Trump said.

Previous testimony and documents in evidence demonstrated that despite the property being restricted by deed to club usage, Donald Trump continued to overvalue the property as if it could be sold as a private residence. Judge Engoron already found that the club was overvalued by 2,300%.

“Mar-a-Lago is a residence that could be sold to a private individual,” Eric Trump insisted.

Nov 03, 11:15 AM EDT
Eric Trump testifies that he signed financial certifications

Eric Trump said that he signed three financial certifications to lenders that relied on his father’s statements of financial condition, which are at the heart of the attorney general’s case.

“I certified something I believed was accurate. My lawyers told me was accurate, and our financial people told me was accurate,” Eric Trump said.

While Eric Trump did not certify his father’s financial statements themselves, like his brother Donald Trump Jr., the attorney general has alleged that these certifications to lenders are similarly fraudulent.

Eric Trump said that he did not personally review the methodologies or supporting data for the financial statements themselves, instead relying on lawyers and accountants to verify the documents for him.

“I wouldn’t sign something that I thought was inaccurate,” he said multiple times.

Nov 03, 11:03 AM EDT
Trump lawyer broaches mistrial over unproven report of bias

Eric Trump has resumed his testimony this morning.

Before he took the stand, Donald Trump’s attorney Chris Kise said that the defense team is considering requesting the mistrial on the basis of a Breitbart report alleging bias from Judge Engoron’s law clerk.

“I think the defense will have to give serious consideration to seeking a mistrial,” Kise said, initially referencing a vague media report that “some random individual” filed a complaint on Oct. 3 alleging “accusations of partisan political activity” by the judge’s clerk.

“It’s not information, it’s an allegation,” Judge Engoron initially responded. “I don’t know what you are talking about, and I will respond later.”

A state attorney argued that Kise was arguing a “frivolous position” and requested specifics about the news report Kise cited.

“I’m not the internet person. I want to say it is on Breitbart maybe. It’s on a news outlet,” Kise said, prompting laughter from the gallery.

“This idea that somebody notified me … is absolutely untrue. OK? Absolutely untrue,” Engoron responded. “I will let everybody in the room decide what they think about Breitbart.”

“It’s a shame you descended to this level,” Engoron added.

A court spokesperson subsequently described the report as “not a serious complaint.”

Nov 03, 8:55 AM EDT
NY AG claims Trump Jr., Eric Trump lied to enrich father

After a day of testimony in which tempers at times flared on all sides, Eric Trump will return to court this morning for what is expected to be his final day on the witness stand.

In a video statement posted to social media last night, New York Attorney General Letitia James suggested that Donald Trump Jr. and Eric Trump’s testimony yesterday highlighted how they lied to help inflate their father’s net worth.

Eric Trump was “intimately involved in lying about the values of properties … to make his father appear richer,” while Donald Trump Jr. “continued to lie” by certifying his father’s financial statements despite being confronted with misstatements, James alleged.

“They pretend that they were not involved in their family’s fraudulent business. But the facts tell a very different story,” James said in the video.

Nov 02, 9:07 PM EDT
Appeals courts rules that Ivanka Trump must testify

A New York appeals court has denied an emergency request from Ivanka Trump to stop her testimony at her father’s civil fraud trial.

Trump’s daughter, who is not a defendant in the case, was subpoenaed by the attorney general to testify.

She is currently scheduled to testify next week on Wednesday.

Nov 02, 6:01 PM EDT
Trump attorney decries trial as ‘waste of NY taxpayer dollars’

Outside court after court was adjourned for the day, Trump attorney Alina Habba defended the actions of Donald Trump’s adult children on the heels of their testimony.

“These children are being brought in, away from their families, for doing nothing wrong,” Habba said.

Echoing Trump, Habba attacked New York Attorney General Letitia James and called the trial “the biggest waste of New York taxpayer dollars I have ever seen.”

“She piggybacked on Trump to get into office. She didn’t do it well enough to become governor,” Habba said, referencing James’ failed attempt to run for New York governor in 2021.

“This is a waste of time,” Habba said.

Exiting court separately with his attorney, Eric Trump shot a thumbs-up to an onlooker ahead of his return to the stand Friday morning.

Nov 02, 5:20 PM EDT
Judge suggests Trump attorney is misogynist, threatens gag order

Court concluded for the day with a threat from Judge Engoron to expand the trial’s limited gag order to include attorneys, after a clash between the judge and defense counsel.

The judge had previously issued the partial gag order prohibiting defendants from making public comments about his staff, after former President Trump posted online about Engoron’s law clerk.

After defense attorney Chris Kise suggested potential bias from the bench, Engoron told him, “Do not refer to my law clerk again.”

“Sometimes I think there might be a bit of misogyny,” Engoron told Kise.

“I have the right to make points on the record,” Kise responded. “If there is bias in the proceedings, I have the right to raise that.”

Engoron, pounding on the bench, shouted into his microphone that Kise had no right to hear conversations between the judge and his clerk.

“I have an absolute, unfettered right to get advice from my principal law clerk,” Engoron said.

Court is scheduled to resume tomorrow morning when Eric Trump returns to the stand.

Nov 02, 4:41 PM EDT
‘I stick by that 100%’ Eric Trump says of appraisal testimony

Eric Trump confidently stood by his past testimony regarding his limited involvement in an appraisal during a heated exchange with state attorney Andrew Amer.

Amer had spent the better part of the afternoon highlighting emails between Eric Trump and a Cushman & Wakefield appraiser, suggesting that Eric Trump was deeply involved in the appraisal of an estate and golf course in New York’s Westchester County. Attempting to paint the testimony as inconsistent, Amer played another portion the deposition Eric Trump had given to investigators.

“I pour concrete. I operate properties. I don’t focus on appraisals between a law firm and Cushman. It’s just not what I do in my day-to-day responsibilities,” Eric Trump said in the deposition.

“Will you concede that your testimony … that you really haven’t been involved in appraisal work on this property was incorrect?” Amer then asked Eric Trump on the stand.

“No. I really hadn’t been involved with appraisal work on that property,” Eric Trump responded. “I was clearly involved to a very small point. I see your emails. One hundred percent. I made phone calls.”

When Amer continued to press the issue, Donald Trump’s attorney Chris Kise loudly objected.

“Are you running the courtroom, or is the judge?” Kise shouted to Amer. “It’s asked and answered, asked and answered, asked and answered, and it’s continued all afternoon. At some point it needs to end.”

“There are a handful of emails well over ten years ago … I stick by that 100%” Eric Trump said.

Nov 02, 4:12 PM EDT
Eric Trump denies ignoring appraisal of luxury NY property

Eric Trump denied that he ignored a professional appraisal that would have significantly lowered the value of his family’s Seven Springs estate in New York’s Westchester County.

State attorney Andrew Amer attempted to show Eric Trump multiple emails and calendar invites from 2014 and 2015 to demonstrate that he was personally involved in an appraisal by Cushman & Wakefield executive David McArdle that placed the total value of the property’s undeveloped lots between $30 and $50 million.

Trump’s 2014 financial statement, in contrast, valued the property at $291 million, including $161 for just seven of the undeveloped lots.

“Can we agree that Mr. McArdle’s valuation in relation to the easement donation he was doing was disregarded?” Amer asked.

“No, the exercises are apples and oranges. Nothing to do with each other,” Eric Trump responded.

Nov 02, 3:53 PM EDT
Attorney continues to press Eric Trump on financial statement

Eric Trump grew visibly irritated as he appeared to struggle with his testimony regarding his father’s statement of financial condition.

Resisting state attorney Andrew Amer’s efforts to show he was familiar with the document at the center of the case, he at times raised his voice and punctuated his short answers with phrases like “obviously,” “clearly,” and “as I previously testified.” Other times he responded with lengthy equivocations, prompting Amer to exhort him to keep his answers to “yes or no.”

“You don’t have to give a speech about that,” Judge Engoron implored Eric Trump at one point.

Amer repeatedly asked variations of the same question: Was Eric Trump aware of his father’s statement of financial condition?

“This is not something I ever recall seeing or working on,” Eric Trump said in one clip from his deposition that was played in court. “This is accounting, and that is not what I do on a daily basis.”

Nov 02, 2:49 PM EDT
Eric Trump appears to contradict deposition

After acknowledging in his testimony that he provided Trump Organization controller Jeffrey McConney with information for his father’s statement of financial condition, Eric Trump was shown video from his own deposition where he appeared to contradict his testimony in court.

“I have no recollection of ever providing Jeff material to be used in a statement that I’ve ever seen,” Eric Trump said in the deposition he gave state attorneys during their probe.

“I don’t think it would have ever registered” what the material was for, Eric Trump said in court today, responding to his own statement during his deposition.

Nov 02, 2:32 PM EDT
Eric Trump clarifies testimony about email

Eric Trump clarified his earlier answer regarding his involvement in his father’s statement of financial condition, in which he was asked if he recalled a 2013 email from then-Trump Organization controller Jeff McConney asking him for notes for the statement.

“I clearly understood I sent notes to Jeffrey McConney,” Eric Trump testified.

“I don’t think that it ever registered [that] it was for a personal statement of financial condition,” he said.

Nov 02, 8:38 AM EDT
Trump Jr. has helped run family’s business for a ‘long time,’ AG says

As Donald Trump Jr. prepares to return to the witness stand this morning, New York Attorney General Letitia James says the Trump Organization executive VP has been with the Trump Organization for a long time for someone who appears to have so little understanding of the business.

In a video posted to social media last night following Trump Jr.’s first day of testimony, James said the eldest son of former President Trump “claimed to have very little understanding of the accounting and legal mechanics of the family business — but we know he has been involved in running the Trump Organization for a long time.”

Trump Jr. testified yesterday that he relied on the expertise of others when he signed the company’s statements of financial condition, distancing himself from the documents at the heart of the attorney general’s case.

While he acknowledged that he had some of the “the most intimate knowledge” about some of the deals described in the statements, Trump Jr. reiterated that he did not have a role in putting the documents together.

“The accountants worked on it. That’s what we pay them to do,” Trump Jr. said.

Trump Jr. will return to the witness stand this morning, with his bother Eric Trump on deck to testify later today.

Nov 01, 5:36 PM EDT
‘I wasn’t involved’ with financial statements, Trump Jr. says

Before stepping down from the witness stand at the end of the afternoon, Donald Trump Jr. was asked repeatedly about his involvement in the Trump Organization’s statements of financial condition — the allegedly fraudulent documents that underpin the attorney general’s case.

Trump Jr., who signed and certified the accuracy of the statements while his father was president between 2016 and 2021, said that he was not involved in preparing the filings.

“I wasn’t involved in the compilation of this statement of financial condition,” Trump Jr. said, placing the responsibility on his accountants.

“Did you work on the statement of financial condition for June 30, 2017?” state attorney Colleen Faherty asked.

“I did not. The accountants worked on it. That’s what we paid them to do,” Trump Jr. said.

Throughout the afternoon, the tone of the proceedings alternated rapidly between lighthearted and heated, varying from playful interactions between Trump Jr. and Judge Engoron, to bitter spats between some of the lawyers.

“I know you don’t like it when good evidence comes in,” Faherty told the defense lawyers during one particularly heated exchange.

“There’s no reason to raise your voice,” Donald Trump Jr.’s lawyer, Clifford Robert, responded.

Trump Jr. is scheduled to return to the stand tomorrow morning.

Nov 01, 4:40 PM EDT
Trump Jr. to resume testimony tomorrow

Donald Trump Jr. has stepped down from the witness stand.

He is due to return to the courtroom tomorrow morning to resume his direct examination.

Court is now adjourned for the day.

Nov 01, 4:25 PM EDT
“Move it along,” judge tells lawyer questioning Trump Jr.

Donald Trump Jr. and state attorney Colleen Faherty got into a rhythm of quick questions and answers during the first hour of direct examination.

“I moved to Florida, but kept the New York pace,” Trump Jr. joked at one point when asked by the judge to speak slower.

So far the state attorney has focused most of her questions on Trump Jr.’s broader roles and responsibilities at his family’s firm, rather than any specific allegations in the attorney general’s complaint.

“I don’t see where we are going at all with this,” Trump attorney Chris Kise said at one point regarding the questioning.

“Move it along as fast as you can,” Judge Engoron told Faherty.

Nov 01, 3:47 PM EDT
Trump Jr. pressed about departure of ex-CFO

Donald Trump Jr. struggled to answer questions when pressed about why former Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg departed the family’s firm.

“Because some legal issues he got himself into,” Trump Jr. said, declining to offer specifics about Weisselberg’s guilty plea on tax evasion charges last year.

Previously giving lengthy answers to questions about his background and even smiling with the judge, Trump Jr. appeared tense on the witness stand as he answered questions about Weisselberg.

“The specific event was he was indicted,” Trump Jr. said.

He added that when began working for the Trump Organization as an executive vice president in the 2010s, Weisselberg outranked him. Trump Jr. would seek Weisselberg’s approval for certain business decisions such as refinancing loans.

“Who is above you in your role as an executive vice president in the Trump Organization?” state attorney Colleen Faherty asked.

“Obviously I would have reported to my father in that period of time … people like Allen Weisselberg would have still been senior to me,” Trump Jr. said of that time period.

Trump Jr. said he gained more responsibility in 2016 when his father became president and he was named a trustee of his father’s revocable trust. He said that he, Weisselberg and his brother Eric Trump became a kind of triumvirate running the Trump Organization.

“We stopped reporting to my father on decisions involving the business,” Trump Jr. said.

That relationship broke down once Weisselberg got himself into “legal issues,” Trump Jr. said. He testified that he could not recall the circumstances of Weisselberg’s exit, including the multimillion-dollar severance deal that Weisselberg received, which Weisselberg faced questions about during his own testimony earlier this month.

“I have no knowledge of the specifics of how it happened. He is no longer working at the Trump Organization,” Trump Jr. said of the former CFO.

Nov 01, 3:22 PM EDT
‘I leave it to my CPAs,’ Trump Jr. says of accounting standards

“Sounds very exciting, but no,” Donald Trump Jr. answered to a state attorney’s question about whether he knows about accounting certifications, professional organizations, or accounting standards other than GAAP, which stands for “Generally Accepted Accounting Principles.”

“I know nothing about GAAP,” Trump Jr. said, adding, “I leave it to my CPAs.”

“I’m a real estate broker,” Trump Jr. said as he introduced himself on the witness stand. He testified that he began working in the family real estate business “right after 9/11,” working on Trump Park Avenue and the former Sun Times building in Chicago.

State attorney Colleen Faherty tried to pressed him on his lack of accounting knowledge, prompting several objections from the defense.

Judge Engoron sustained the objections and admonished Faherty against asking negative questions.

-ABC News’ Olivia Rubin contributed to this report.

Nov 01, 3:10 PM EDT
Trump Jr. to be questioned by assistant AG

Assistant New York Attorney General Colleen Faherty will start off the direct examination of Donald Trump Jr.

Faherty is familiar with questioning high-stakes witnesses, having led the direct examination of former Trump attorney Michael Cohen last week.

Her quick objections during Cohen’s cross-examination led Trump attorney Alina Habba to accuse Faherty of trying to “throw off” her game.

A seven-year veteran of the New York attorney general’s office and a former criminal defense attorney, Faherty has been a vocal presence in the courtroom since the start of the trial.

Her willingness to spar with Trump lawyer Chris Kise previously led to some heated exchanges in court, such as a sidebar when Faherty demanded Kise “be more respectful.”

“No,” Kise responded.

“That was rude,” Faherty replied.

Nov 01, 3:01 PM EDT
Donald Trump Jr. takes the stand

Donald Trump Jr. has taken the stand, where he will be the first of the former president’s children to testify.

Before taking the stand, Trump Jr. sat while news photographers snapped pictures.

“I should’ve worn makeup,” he quipped.

Nov 01, 2:30 PM EDT
Ivanka Trump appeals ruling requiring her to testify

One week ahead of her planned testimony, Ivanka Trump has appealed Judge Engoron’s decision to require her to testify in person at the Trump Organization’s fraud trial.

Ivanka Trump’s lawyer Bennet Moskowitz asked an appellate court to decide whether Engoron has jurisdiction to compel her testimony and whether the trial subpoenas issued by the New York attorney general were properly served.

Ivanka Trump, who is not a defendant in the case, is currently scheduled to testify next Wednesday as the final witness in the attorney general’s case before the defense presents its case.

Nov 01, 2:08 PM EDT
Donald Trump Jr. arrives at courthouse

Donald Trump Jr. has arrived at the New York State Supreme Courthouse with his attorney.

Unlike his father and his brother Eric Trump — who have visited the courtroom to watch the proceedings – Donald Trump Jr. has not stepped foot inside the courthouse for the trial until today.

A Trump Organization executive vice president, Trump Jr. is scheduled to testify in the case this afternoon.

Nov 01, 1:44 PM EDT
Defense presses state’s expert on his analysis

Defense lawyer Jesus Suarez spent the first hour of his cross-examination working to cast doubt on expert Michiel McCarty’s analysis, which found that Trump defrauded lenders out of $168 million in interest.

“Who created the universe of documents for you to review? It was the New York attorney general, right?” Suarez said before launching into a rapid-fire succession of questions regarding which lenders McCarty had spoken to in the course of his analysis.

“Did you ever interview anyone from Deutsche Bank?” Suarez asked.

“No,” McCarty said.

“Did you ever interview anyone from Ladder Capital?” Suarez asked.

“No,” McCarty repeated.

“Did you ever interview anyone from Mazars,” Suarez asked.

“No,” McCarty responded.

“Did you ever interview anyone from the Trump Organization?” Suarez asked.

“No,” McCarty said again.

Nov 01, 12:34 PM EDT
Defense assails judge after he tells them to speed up questioning

Only 15 minutes into what is expected to be a three-hour cross-examination, Judge Arthur Engoron snapped at defense lawyer Jesus Suarez for asking redundant questions.

“I see why this is going to take two or three hours. Some questions become three or four more questions,” Engoron said, interrupting the cross-examination to request that Suarez shorten his questions.

That prompted Trump lawyer Chris Kise to criticize Engoron for placing an unfair standard on the defense team.

“You never give them speeches. You never limit their questions,” Kise said about Engoron’s approach to the attorney general’s legal team. “I think it’s unfair.”

Kise stressed that the cross-examination of the state’s sole expert witness is particularly important since his testimony is likely to play into the judge’s calculation of Trump’s potential fine.

“This witness is the only witness they have that even hints … about ill-gotten gains,” Kise said.

Engoron, however, refused to back down.

“I stand by my rulings and statements,” the judge said.

Nov 01, 12:17 PM EDT
Expert agrees that high-net-worth borrowers get low rates

Defense attorney Jesus Suarez began what is expected to be a marathon cross examination of the state’s expert witness, Michiel McCarty, by attempting to use his words against him.

“Historically banks have been willing to lend to high-net-worth individuals at low rates because they get repaid?” Suarez said, citing McCarty’s direct examination.

“That is correct,” McCarty said.

Suarez then reminded McCarty that Trump’s loans were paid on time — a point that the former president has reiterated during his appearance in court and on social media.

Suarez then asked if McCarty had charged the attorney general’s office $950 per hour for his expert analysis.

“That’s my standard rate, yes,” said McCarty, who estimated that his total bill for his analysis was $350,000.

Nov 01, 12:05 PM EDT
Trump’s misrepresentations cost banks $168M, expert testifies

The state’s expert witness, Michiel McCarty, calculated that Donald Trump’s lenders lost $168 million in potential interest between 2014 and 2023, according to a report he presented in court.

McCarty’s testimony appeared to reinforce a central tenet of New York Attorney General Letitia James’ case: that Trump’s misrepresentations in his financial statements cost banks potential earnings from interest, even if the banks made money on the loans.

State attorney Kevin Wallace directed McCarty to a footnote in Judge Engoron’s earlier summary judgment order about the concept of lost interest, in which Engoron said, “The subject loans made the banks lots of money; but the fraudulent SFCs [Statements of Financial Condition] cost the banks lots of money. The less collateral for a loan, the riskier it is, and a first principle of loan accounting is that as risk rises, so do interest rates. Thus, accurate SFCs would have allowed the lenders to make even more money than they did.”

McCarty, who said he agreed with this assessment, ultimately found that banks lost a total of $168,040,168 in potential interest from loans related to four of Trump’s properties in Miami, New York, Chicago, and Washington, D.C.

Trump attorney Chris Kise fiercely objected, arguing that McCarty was testifying about facts not established during the trial. During questioning, state attorneys declined to ask a Deutsche Bank executive if the bank would have still done business with Trump had they known his financial statements were inflated.

“They are not ill-gotten gains if the bank does not testify it would have done it differently,” Kise said.

“I decided these were ill-gotten,” the Judge Engoron replied.

Following Wallace’s direct examination of McCarty, defense attorney Jesus Suarez began his cross-examination.

Nov 01, 11:03 AM EDT
State’s expert witness takes the stand

Listing companies like Marriott, Fannie Mae and AT&T, the New York attorney general’s lone expert witness, Michiel McCarty, began his testimony by outlining some of the deals he worked on during his nearly 50-year career.

McCarty said that he has worked as an expert witness on “dozens of cases” and testified at 15 trials. But he acknowledged that he had limited experience with the compilation of statements of financial condition, prompting an objection from Trump’s lawyer Chris Kise.

“It appears that he does not have the specific experience relevant to the purpose he is here,” Kise argued.

Deemed an expert by Judge Engoron, McCarty went on to explain the report he wrote after reviewing Trump’s finances.

Nov 01, 10:49 AM EDT
Former Trump Organization VP testifies about Ivanka Trump

Former Trump Organization VP David Orowitz testified about Ivanka Trump’s involvement with Trump’s Old Post Office property in Washington, D.C.

“Ivanka wanted me to change the language in the GAAP section. She asked that I review with you,” Orowitz wrote in a 2011 email to then-Trump Organization CFO Allen Weisselberg, referring to the Generally Accepted Accounting Principles used in the preparation of financial documents.

Defense attorneys have previously tried to downplay the extent to which Ivanka Trump was involved in the representation of Trump’s finances.

Orowitz subsequently stepped down from the witness stand to make way for Michiel McCarty, the state’s sole expert witness, to begin his testimony.

Nov 01, 10:14 AM EDT
‘We have a busy day,’ judge says as court gets underway

“We have a busy day and a busy week, so let’s try to move things along,” Judge Engoron remarked as he brought the courtroom to order to begin the day’s proceedings.

“Would you like to continue your witness?” Engoron asked state attorney Eric Haren.

“We would,” said Haren, before calling back to the stand former Trump Organization vice president David Orowitz, who began his testimony yesterday afternoon.

Defense attorneys Chris Kise, Alina Habba, and Jesus Suarez are sitting at the counsel table, leaving one seat available for Donald Trump Jr., who has not yet appeared ahead of his scheduled testimony this afternoon.

Nov 01, 10:01 AM EDT
Trump rails against judge, gag order

Former President Trump continued to attack Judge Engoron this morning, calling him “crazy, totally unhinged, and dangerous” on his Truth Social platform.

“He then put a RIDICULOUS GAG ORDER ON ME, which we will appeal. He fines me at levels never seen before,” Trump wrote this morning.

Trump recently paid $15,000 in fines related to two violations of the limited gag order Engoron established that prohibits public statements about the judge’s staff.

Trump also complained about the potential fine that Engoron could impose in the case. During court yesterday, the judge remarked that disgorgement — fining Trump for profits made through fraudulent means — is a “clearly available remedy” in the case.

“Now they come up with something called ‘disgorgement.’ I never even heard of the term,” Trump said.

Engoron already ruled in a partial summary judgment that Trump had submitted “fraudulent valuations” for his assets, leaving the trial to determine additional actions and what penalty, if any, the defendants should receive.

Nov 01, 8:45 AM EDT
‘Leave my children alone,’ Trump says ahead of sons’ testimony

Former President Trump attacked Judge Arthur Engoron and New York Attorney General Letitia James on social media ahead of today’s expected testimony from his son Donald Trump Jr.

“Leave my children alone, Engoron. You are a disgrace to the legal profession!” Trump wrote overnight on his Truth Social platform.

Donald Trump Jr. is expected to begin his testimony in the afternoon today.

If that testimony concludes today, his brother Eric Trump could also begin his testimony.

Both of them are executive vice presidents in the Trump Organization.

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